Comments on: E-voting at De Balie and the current Irish situation http://www.stdlib.net/~colmmacc/2006/10/20/e-voting-at-de-balie-and-the-current-irish-situation/ An Irishman's Fiery Tue, 17 May 2011 19:12:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: vias http://www.stdlib.net/~colmmacc/2006/10/20/e-voting-at-de-balie-and-the-current-irish-situation/comment-page-1/#comment-22410 vias Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:13:46 +0000 http://www.stdlib.net/~colmmacc/2006/10/20/e-voting-at-de-balie-and-the-current-irish-situation/#comment-22410 <a></a>

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By: Jason Kitcat http://www.stdlib.net/~colmmacc/2006/10/20/e-voting-at-de-balie-and-the-current-irish-situation/comment-page-1/#comment-4570 Jason Kitcat Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:32:47 +0000 http://www.stdlib.net/~colmmacc/2006/10/20/e-voting-at-de-balie-and-the-current-irish-situation/#comment-4570 erk - my link got stripped http://www.j-dom.org/?be_id=298 erk – my link got stripped

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By: Jason Kitcat http://www.stdlib.net/~colmmacc/2006/10/20/e-voting-at-de-balie-and-the-current-irish-situation/comment-page-1/#comment-4567 Jason Kitcat Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:30:22 +0000 http://www.stdlib.net/~colmmacc/2006/10/20/e-voting-at-de-balie-and-the-current-irish-situation/#comment-4567 Bill Clinton's thoughts on ideology apply to the Irish situation as well then. Stubborn lot these politicians! Bill Clinton’s thoughts on ideology apply to the Irish situation as well then. Stubborn lot these politicians!

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By: Tuppenceworth.ie blog » Journalists: Here Is An Actual E-Voting Story http://www.stdlib.net/~colmmacc/2006/10/20/e-voting-at-de-balie-and-the-current-irish-situation/comment-page-1/#comment-4307 Tuppenceworth.ie blog » Journalists: Here Is An Actual E-Voting Story Sun, 22 Oct 2006 23:27:20 +0000 http://www.stdlib.net/~colmmacc/2006/10/20/e-voting-at-de-balie-and-the-current-irish-situation/#comment-4307 [...] “nearly two years ago I told the Minister that if he tried to bring in E-voting without a VVAT, we will sue the Government. Has that cost been accounted for? With the latest attacks on voting secrecy with the system, our constitutional case only strengthens and other precedents become even more clearly involved.” (link) [...] [...] “nearly two years ago I told the Minister that if he tried to bring in E-voting without a VVAT, we will sue the Government. Has that cost been accounted for? With the latest attacks on voting secrecy with the system, our constitutional case only strengthens and other precedents become even more clearly involved.” (link) [...]

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By: Journalists: Here Is An Actual E-Voting Story at Irish Election http://www.stdlib.net/~colmmacc/2006/10/20/e-voting-at-de-balie-and-the-current-irish-situation/comment-page-1/#comment-4306 Journalists: Here Is An Actual E-Voting Story at Irish Election Sun, 22 Oct 2006 23:16:52 +0000 http://www.stdlib.net/~colmmacc/2006/10/20/e-voting-at-de-balie-and-the-current-irish-situation/#comment-4306 [...] In addition to this, Colm goes on to outline the reasons why the estimate of €500,000 which the government has been using in the Dail to justify keeping this white elephant on life support is inaccurate. Not included in that half a million software development cost is the cost of changing the machines to meet the Commission on Electronic voting’s security recommendations. The government has committed itself to making those changes. Colm says “Nedap, the machines manufacturers, themselves pointed out that it will be costly to retrofit the e-voting units with the neccessary changes pointed out by the commission (the Government seem to be in complete denial that major hardware changes were recommended, while simultaneously having committed to implementing all of the recommendations of the Commission on Electronic Voting) would cost a lot of money.” (link ) How much money? Well here’s a quote from the Irish Times, 7th July 2006: “Similar work to that suggested in the report cost nearly €2,500 per machine during an upgrade of 1,000 of the machines three years ago, although no estimate has been given on the cost of the current work… [Henk Steentjes, chief technical officer of Nedap, the Dutch company that made the system said] “There is a magnifying factor, even with a small change,” he said. “You have [ more than] 7,000 identical machines, these are stand-alone units, and any change that is made has to be made 7,000 times.” (link) [...] [...] In addition to this, Colm goes on to outline the reasons why the estimate of €500,000 which the government has been using in the Dail to justify keeping this white elephant on life support is inaccurate. Not included in that half a million software development cost is the cost of changing the machines to meet the Commission on Electronic voting’s security recommendations. The government has committed itself to making those changes. Colm says “Nedap, the machines manufacturers, themselves pointed out that it will be costly to retrofit the e-voting units with the neccessary changes pointed out by the commission (the Government seem to be in complete denial that major hardware changes were recommended, while simultaneously having committed to implementing all of the recommendations of the Commission on Electronic Voting) would cost a lot of money.” (link ) How much money? Well here’s a quote from the Irish Times, 7th July 2006: “Similar work to that suggested in the report cost nearly €2,500 per machine during an upgrade of 1,000 of the machines three years ago, although no estimate has been given on the cost of the current work… [Henk Steentjes, chief technical officer of Nedap, the Dutch company that made the system said] “There is a magnifying factor, even with a small change,” he said. “You have [ more than] 7,000 identical machines, these are stand-alone units, and any change that is made has to be made 7,000 times.” (link) [...]

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